It's (mostly) died out since the introduction of thread requirements on the board, but people in F&NI who'd make survey/question threads about the most inane shit.

Like 'What do lightbulbs look like in your nation?', 'Does your nation have IKEA?', 'What do floors look like in your nation?', etc.

Gandoor wrote:It's (mostly) died out since the introduction of thread requirements on the board, but people in F&NI who'd make survey/question threads about the most inane shit.

Like 'What do lightbulbs look like in your nation?', 'Does your nation have IKEA?', 'What do floors look like in your nation?', etc.

Those are the good threads, the more insane and specific it is the more you can think of weird oddities or at least something different.

Gandoor wrote:It's (mostly) died out since the introduction of thread requirements on the board, but people in F&NI who'd make survey/question threads about the most inane shit.

Like 'What do lightbulbs look like in your nation?', 'Does your nation have IKEA?', 'What do floors look like in your nation?', etc.

I like those kinds of questions, tbh.

Even if unintentionally, they often can make me think about my nation, beyond just the obvious stuff like "They have [x] government that controls [y] population."

Alliance of Self-Defensive Territories wrote:

Gandoor wrote:It's (mostly) died out since the introduction of thread requirements on the board, but people in F&NI who'd make survey/question threads about the most inane shit.

Like 'What do lightbulbs look like in your nation?', 'Does your nation have IKEA?', 'What do floors look like in your nation?', etc.

I like those kinds of questions, tbh.

Even if unintentionally, they often can make me think about my nation, beyond just the obvious stuff like "They have [x] government that controls [y] population."

That's why the Misc. Worldbuilding Thread was created, so all those questions could have a place to be without clogging up the board itself.

Gandoor wrote:

Alliance of Self-Defensive Territories wrote:I like those kinds of questions, tbh.

Even if unintentionally, they often can make me think about my nation, beyond just the obvious stuff like "They have [x] government that controls [y] population."

That's why the Misc. Worldbuilding Thread was created, so all those questions could have a place to be without clogging up the board itself.

Fair enough.

Gandoor wrote:It's (mostly) died out since the introduction of thread requirements on the board, but people in F&NI who'd make survey/question threads about the most inane shit.

Like 'What do lightbulbs look like in your nation?', 'Does your nation have IKEA?', 'What do floors look like in your nation?', etc.

I find F&NI to be mostly redundant since we have factbooks and dispatches. I mean, why bother? Even if I want to do that sort of worldbuilding, I'd rather do it in a F7 game than in a gravedug F&NI thread from 2010.

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Zul-ar wrote:

Gandoor wrote:It's (mostly) died out since the introduction of thread requirements on the board, but people in F&NI who'd make survey/question threads about the most inane shit.

Like 'What do lightbulbs look like in your nation?', 'Does your nation have IKEA?', 'What do floors look like in your nation?', etc.

I find F&NI to be mostly redundant since we have factbooks and dispatches. I mean, why bother? Even if I want to do that sort of worldbuilding, I'd rather do it in a F7 game than in a gravedug F&NI thread from 2010.

You have to remember that the gameside factbooks were only added in 2012 (and non-factbook dispatches were added in 2014), so for most of this hellsite's history, the only option for doing this kind of stuff was on the forum.

And honestly I still prefer using F&NI because why does the gameside factbook editor still suck so much ding dong it's been nearly nine years the only things that have easy buttons to press to get the BBCode are bold, italics, underline, and the nation and region tags. Why is it like this.

Aikoland wrote:

Zul-ar wrote:I find F&NI to be mostly redundant since we have factbooks and dispatches. I mean, why bother? Even if I want to do that sort of worldbuilding, I'd rather do it in a F7 game than in a gravedug F&NI thread from 2010.

You have to remember that the gameside factbooks were only added in 2012 (and non-factbook dispatches were added in 2014), so for most of this hellsite's history, the only option for doing this kind of stuff was on the forum.

And honestly I still prefer using F&NI because why does the gameside factbook editor still suck so much ding dong it's been nearly nine years the only things that have easy buttons to press to get the BBCode are bold, italics, underline, and the nation and region tags. Why is it like this.

To be entirely honest, the gameside factbook editor for all the pile of steaming *insert synonyms for excrement here* it is still offers more options for being creative with your formatting than the forumside posts do. Background-block alone is worth using the gameside editor, imo.

That being said, it is more arcane than what the occupants of a new-age crystal shop think they're buying when you start digging around in it.

Kiu Ghesik wrote:

Aikoland wrote:You have to remember that the gameside factbooks were only added in 2012 (and non-factbook dispatches were added in 2014), so for most of this hellsite's history, the only option for doing this kind of stuff was on the forum.

And honestly I still prefer using F&NI because why does the gameside factbook editor still suck so much ding dong it's been nearly nine years the only things that have easy buttons to press to get the BBCode are bold, italics, underline, and the nation and region tags. Why is it like this.

To be entirely honest, the gameside factbook editor for all the pile of steaming *insert synonyms for excrement here* it is still offers more options for being creative with your formatting than the forumside posts do. Background-block alone is worth using the gameside editor, imo.

That being said, it is more arcane than what the occupants of a new-age crystal shop think they're buying when you start digging around in it.

As CEO of the Philistines I hate background-block because it makes other people's factbooks look nice and I have no idea what dark magic you people use to make background-block look nice since whenever I do it it looks ugly as shit and makes me ill.

OK but isn't background-block literally the same thing as the background tag on the forums? I mean I don't know, I find all that shit kinda tacky but I'm more of the old-style factbook writer who feels that they should read and look like encyclopedia articles and not Geocities pages.

Aikoland wrote:OK but isn't background-block literally the same thing as the background tag on the forums? I mean I don't know, I find all that shit kinda tacky but I'm more of the old-style factbook writer who feels that they should read and look like encyclopedia articles and not Geocities pages.

Background-block creates a solid background regardless of how many words it encompasses, so it can be used to make entire pages a certain colour. Background only highlights certain words.

Wuchu wrote:

Aikoland wrote:OK but isn't background-block literally the same thing as the background tag on the forums? I mean I don't know, I find all that shit kinda tacky but I'm more of the old-style factbook writer who feels that they should read and look like encyclopedia articles and not Geocities pages.

Background-block creates a solid background regardless of how many words it encompasses, so it can be used to make entire pages a certain colour. Background only highlights certain words.

Technically you could use the background tag to highlight a page or entire sections of it, but for any blank space you'd need filler characters of the same colour, whereas when you use background-block you only need those filler characters for extra lines in between groups of text/images.

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Drongonia wrote:

Wuchu wrote:Background-block creates a solid background regardless of how many words it encompasses, so it can be used to make entire pages a certain colour. Background only highlights certain words.

Technically you could use the background tag to highlight a page or entire sections of it, but for any blank space you'd need filler characters of the same colour, whereas when you use background-block you only need those filler characters for extra lines in between groups of text/images.

Unfortunately, this wouldn't actually work. There's a little gap in between each line that makes the concept untenable. Look here:



See? It's nice, but it doesn't work.

Kiu Ghesik wrote:

Drongonia wrote:Technically you could use the background tag to highlight a page or entire sections of it, but for any blank space you'd need filler characters of the same colour, whereas when you use background-block you only need those filler characters for extra lines in between groups of text/images.

Unfortunately, this wouldn't actually work. There's a little gap in between each line that makes the concept untenable. Look here:

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See? It's nice, but it doesn't work.

Oh I see. I'd never used it in practice. And yes, it looks fairly awful if full-page highlighting was the intention.

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Probably not a cliche, but its an annoying thing that sometimes happens. You're doing an RP with a few people. The problem is that the RP moves pretty slow, because the others users live in an entirely different timezone, and is probably asleep while you do stuff in the thread.

Well, I don't think that's a problem. Unless you are talking about RP with one sentence.

Free Stalliongrad wrote:Well, I don't think that's a problem. Unless you are talking about RP with one sentence.

Yeah, it kinda depends on the type of RP.

Still related to formatting, the light and dark mode divide. Some factbook are specifically catered only to one mode and absolutely broke when you switch to another mode. I myself use light mode since I like white (wait, that sounds politically incorrect), I like light's UI better, I (later) want to seamlessly include a bunch of graphs, and as to ensure that I keep my eyes far enough from the screen. So it's a bit of a pain in the ass to continuously switch between modes.

Related to screens, mobile and frame size, which is even more painful. I use my mobile phone far more than I use my laptop to browse NS, since it's easier, so I try to optimize my factbook design to be (at the best of my ability) able to suit both—or any kind of window size, really. Many don't, though, and their formatting are often absolutely obliterated if given the incorrect device or window size.

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Resilient Acceleration wrote:Still related to formatting, the light and dark mode divide. Some factbook are specifically catered only to one mode and absolutely broke when you switch to another mode. I myself use light mode since I like white (wait, that sounds politically incorrect), I like light's UI better, I (later) want to seamlessly include a bunch of graphs, and as to ensure that I keep my eyes far enough from the screen. So it's a bit of a pain in the ass to continuously switch between modes.

Related to screens, mobile and frame size, which is even more painful. I use my mobile phone far more than I use my laptop to browse NS, since it's easier, so I try to optimize my factbook design to be (at the best of my ability) able to suit both—or any kind of window size, really. Many don't, though, and their formatting are often absolutely obliterated if given the incorrect device or window size.

I try and make my factbooks functional in both light and dark modes, as I generally used light mode until recently. That said, I pretty much never use my phone for NS, and having just taken a look the formatting is definitely broken there. I guess you can't really optimise for everything.

I made it so that it's visible to both themes. :3

A quick hotfix for those using white and black fonts. Instead of #000000 and #FFFFFF, use #000001 and #FFFFFE. It is extremely subtle and you won't notice the difference, but it will also make sure that your text is not swapped by NS depending on what theme you are using.

I got a formatting guide here, though do be mindful that there is also a difference between gameside/factbook formatting and forum formatting. In all honesty, it's pretty convoluted, but it does help if you put in a bit of effort into it.

The Troas Sector wrote:

Kiu Ghesik wrote:Do they really though?

Brettenwald wrote:Welcome to the study of history, where everyone develops a drinking problem and your national pride goes to die.

Unless you're an American far-right winger then you just get even more patriotic about killing duh commies and being segregationist.

Aureumterra III wrote:What atrocities did Iceland ever commit?

Ask the Danes or Norwegians and they'll probably tell you that existing is atrocity enough.

The Danes would, they seethed so much at our mere existence they tried to systematically wipe out the language

Aureumterra III wrote:

The Troas Sector wrote:

Unless you're an American far-right winger then you just get even more patriotic about killing duh commies and being segregationist.


Ask the Danes or Norwegians and they'll probably tell you that existing is atrocity enough.

The Danes would, they seethed so much at our mere existence they tried to systematically wipe out the language

Wat--COME ON, DENMARK!!!

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Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:

Aureumterra III wrote:The Danes would, they seethed so much at our mere existence they tried to systematically wipe out the language

Wat--COME ON, DENMARK!!!

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You know that one joke that goes: "America isn't like that, its about *opens history book". I think you can easily replace America with nearly every single other nation (or just humanity as a whole), and the joke would still work.

Sengoku Americas wrote: Probably not a cliche, but I feel there's a lack of IC threads on F7. I do wish there were more IC interaction threads without the commitment of an RP.

Here are a handful for your enjoyment:

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